Posts by The Dragon

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who really rules the world now?

by michiyo84 in

for now the rules of dis world is satan.

but for 1 day satan will b destroyed.

The Dragon

Perhaps God want Satan to rule..just do it correctly like He wants and knows it needs to be done?

Perhaps this world is Satan's inheirtence.....and he was doing exactly what he was supposed to be doing.....how in the hell would we know for sure? What is the point in resorting to lie about it? We are really good at misunderstanding the truth on our own.

Oh well...that is my guess into it..and is holds as much wieght as the dubs guesses they call "truth".

Point is...only God knows for sure...Satan himself probably doesn't even know for sure. Dumbass probably thinks he is destined for eternal destruction for doing what he thought was right and having to stand up to his Creator to protect and defend his weaker less intelligent brethern.

This all could be a test..he passed with flying colors....

Who really knows for sure?

Would a father play bully against his own children to see which ones will try to take a stand against him to protect the others?

Please excuse my rambling....

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How can scipture be used to dispute a JW when they alone understand it?

by The Dragon in

i hear and see this alot.....debates consisting of two sides picking and hurling scriptures at one another to back up their assertions and guesses...it usually goes nowhere but wastes time and energy that could be more productivily used.. problem being is...in the case of the dubs...they believe that they and their leaders/teachers alone are being granted divine understanding...and you are trying to convince them they do not understand the book they wrote, and what they were trying to say in it basically.

they are allowed to pick and choose what is to be taken literal and figurelative without opposition...and should you point this out..you are in effect calling their leaders and trusted teachers liars.

you would have better luck convincing hitler what exactly he meant and really wanted from his book mien krap...could you convince him he really didn't have a clue and you knew it better than him?

The Dragon

I hear and see this alot.....debates consisting of two sides picking and hurling scriptures at one another to back up their assertions and guesses...it usually goes nowhere but wastes time and energy that could be more productivily used.

Problem being is...in the case of the dubs...they believe that they and their leaders/teachers alone are being granted divine understanding...and you are trying to convince them they do not understand the book they wrote, and what they were trying to say in it basically.

They are allowed to pick and choose what is to be taken literal and figurelative without opposition...and should you point this out..you are in effect calling their leaders and trusted teachers liars.

You would have better luck convincing Hitler what exactly he meant and really wanted from his book Mien Krap...could you convince him he really didn't have a clue and you knew it better than him?

Difference being...you have a book niether side wrote or truly understands...arguing who understands it better and should be listened to.

What if you could get this point across to them before the scriptures fly? Would they still be able to twist scripture to support their guesses effectivily...or would they be persuaded to admit their ignorance instead?

Has anyone tried this before with any results good or bad?

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How can you be faithful yet not gullible or misled?

by The Dragon in

i hear all the time how leaders justify why people should buy into and follow their guesses...and the whole defense is if you don't you have no faith.. what protects a "faithful" person from becoming prey to a self-exalted leader and their guesses?

or are the faithful meant to be prey or something?.

The Dragon

I still am facinated by the results that come from exposing the schemes to the intended prey.

I find that to be the best way so far to combat these fools...cause then people can defend, and smell out the bullshit for themselves...and do not need to be babysitted or dependant upon anyone to protect them from being misled, and "fleeced".

And you do not steal their thunder when they "put it down" themselves to their would be predators.

If I had the power to take away their power and control over others..that is how I would want to do it. Turn the prey into their predator's predator by doing it like that.

Entertaining...educational...and no consequences that I can see...a win/win for everyone concerned..even the target..perhaps they may learn a valuable lesson from it.

Like a rabbit suckering in and outsmarting a wolf who never sees it coming.......until he wakes up caged in a zoo on display wondering WTF happened.

playing dumb has it's merits imo.

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..If I went "Back to the Kingdom Hall"..

by OUTLAW in

if i went back to the kingdom hall there would be no windows..lol!

!..and..many doctrines,i could no longer preach.i would be reprimanded,reproved or disfellowshipped for it!..doctrines we were told to preach,straight from god,given to us by the wbt$ are no longer valid.the wbt$ says so.......i left in 1974.i couldn`t preach "armageddon by 1975"..most jehovah`s witness`s will tell you wbt$ never made that prediction.although wbt$ liturature says otherwise....."jehovah`s witness will be the only ones who survive armageddon".now,no one knows....."jehovah`s witness`s can`t take blood transfusions".now they can use blood factions....."religion has no place with worldly organizations".the wbt$ had an assosiation with the united nations-ngo..make a big deal about that and you "will" be disfellowshipped!.....

"the generation of 1914 will not pass away.

The Dragon

Wow.......

I must look into that...and do some further intelliegence work on you and your tactics....I hope we never bang heads with you being in the right..and me thinking I am..

You are one calculating smart bitch...and I mean that in the highest regard.

Wow.....

What happened..where can I find out?

can you post me a link?

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Countdown to Armageddon

by Sasha in

on the history channel, right now...hummmmmm

The Dragon

yeah I was watching it too...just reinforced my guess that nobody really has a clue.

It all reminds me of Mad Max Beyond thunderdome and those kids who were in a plane crash and grew up on their own and the strange beliefs and how silly they appeared to someone who knew the facts. That was on earlier today.

truth is...we don't have a clue as to what our creator is wanting from us......hunters, protectors, students, or gullible prey for intelligent hunters. That is my guess..and until we do know FOR SURE we have no idea who is right or wrong..or is going to live or die....

I almost consider that statement to be true and undisputable too....

But perhaps someone has some proof I am wrong on this and can help me see the error of my presumpteous post?

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Why would God...

by Crooked Lumpy Vessel in

put us on this planet...giving us life with all its beauty.

flowers, children, relationships, clouds, trees, kittens...then.

tell us we are imperfect human beings and that there are invisible evil forces and demonic influences that are much greater and stronger than we are trying to sway us in the wrong direction.

The Dragon

If you were not from Tennesee I would accept that as an undisputable answer. lol

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Gas prices soon to pass $4.00 mark

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i remember last year, a lot of blame against the republican congress for doing nothing to stop big oil companies from raising prices.

democrats are in office now, and no one seems to be saying anything.

why are the democrats not being the night and shinning armor about gas prices?.

The Dragon

I guess now could be a good time to invest in technology researching alternative fuels and hybrid cars...as well as security systems to protect the rich from the poor when they can no longer survive and provide for their families....

Or it could go back down...and you could lose everything....

Seems with all the so called prophets who can see into the future and get information from God...would have no need for collections to survive and gain wealth...anymore than a mind reading poker player would.

Should I sell my mustang that gets 10mpg now? Or wait?

lol

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Why would God...

by Crooked Lumpy Vessel in

put us on this planet...giving us life with all its beauty.

flowers, children, relationships, clouds, trees, kittens...then.

tell us we are imperfect human beings and that there are invisible evil forces and demonic influences that are much greater and stronger than we are trying to sway us in the wrong direction.

The Dragon

I wish I had an answer for that great question.

I hope and pray we all get that question answered someday.....

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How can you be faithful yet not gullible or misled?

by The Dragon in

i hear all the time how leaders justify why people should buy into and follow their guesses...and the whole defense is if you don't you have no faith.. what protects a "faithful" person from becoming prey to a self-exalted leader and their guesses?

or are the faithful meant to be prey or something?.

The Dragon

I have been out for a long time...but I still have family and friends in the burning house.....so my fight does not end with my personal freedom from them..or my escape from the house..if you will.

If it means I have to take out the guy with lighter and gas can to rescue them...I am prepared to do so.

But then again..perhaps the guy with the gas and lighter has no clue what he is doing and merely needs to have his error pointed out to him..

Who the &^%@ knows for certain? I don't.

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..If I went "Back to the Kingdom Hall"..

by OUTLAW in

if i went back to the kingdom hall there would be no windows..lol!

!..and..many doctrines,i could no longer preach.i would be reprimanded,reproved or disfellowshipped for it!..doctrines we were told to preach,straight from god,given to us by the wbt$ are no longer valid.the wbt$ says so.......i left in 1974.i couldn`t preach "armageddon by 1975"..most jehovah`s witness`s will tell you wbt$ never made that prediction.although wbt$ liturature says otherwise....."jehovah`s witness will be the only ones who survive armageddon".now,no one knows....."jehovah`s witness`s can`t take blood transfusions".now they can use blood factions....."religion has no place with worldly organizations".the wbt$ had an assosiation with the united nations-ngo..make a big deal about that and you "will" be disfellowshipped!.....

"the generation of 1914 will not pass away.

The Dragon

I feel your pain...I lost much too to my ignorance of trusting in them and their advice...

I can only hope we get the last laugh if they did these things knowingly and on purpose to hold us back!

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